CAPTAIN SENSIBLE speaks on the eve of THE DAMNED 35th Anniversary tour
THE DAMNED embark
on their 35th Anniversary tour of the UK this week, during which they
will be playing albums ‘Damned, Damned, Damned’ and ‘Black Album’ back to back
and in their entirety. Captain Sensible of the band has explained exactly where
the band are at now and has looked back at what made The Damned the band they
are today in the following series of Q&A responses.
Q: Why have you
chosen to perform “Damned, Damned, Damned” and “The Black Album” in their
entirety?
A: For 35 years in
this band of oddballs and eccentrics you deserve a medal.... and there were
times when we lived life close to the edge. We are celebrating survival here (as
a band AND as live human beings) as much as the music, but when it came to a
setlist these two groundbreaking albums were the obvious choice.
Q: Has there
been any problem rehearsing the songs or getting the tour
together?
A: Ha ha, funny you
should say that because as soon as we started rehearsing the Black Album
material we realised what a job we had on our hands. In 3 years since New Rose
kick started the UK punk scene we'd come a long way as songwriters and the likes
of Curtain Call and Twisted Nerve still present quite a challenge.....
especially if you want to stay faithful to the original.
As for the tour
schedule, and being a bit more mature these days we are never going to hit the
road for months on end like the glory years so apologies if we're not playing
everywhere people want us to.
Q: How does
gigging them now differ from when you were originally promoting the
albums?
A: On the 80s Black
Album tour I seem to remember we dressed these three raunchy punkettes as
dancing nuns for the original tour. Gyrating suggestively and occasionally
flashing the audience - it gave the performances a theatrical edge that none of
our contemporaries could compete with..... they were VERY naughty ladies - it
was a VERY fun time for the band.
In Curtain Call's
autobiographical lyric Dave sings about a "reckless gambling pace" which is fair
enough because we'd bet on absolutely anything..... from whether we could record
a song in one take to the exact time the wheels of the plane would hit the
ground. Some of the band made a few bob on this wheeze when we
flew.
And we used to
drink all day too back then, especially when travelling so gigs at that time
could be quite variable depending on the state of the band when they turned up
at the venue. These days it's quality rather than quantity on the beverage front
so performances are consistently much improved overall. And I enjoy the shows
more knowing I'm playing the right chords. A couple of posh ales usually
suffices
Plus I awake in the
morning without a stinking hangover these days...... why didn't somebody tell
me?
Q: With “Damned,
Damned, Damned” you’ve got the first UK punk album that’s full of guts and “The
Black Album” represents the birth of Goth, how did the punk fans take to the new
sound? And do the Goths like the punk classics?
A: You'll have to
ask them. Seemed to work though but sometimes it's a challenge to balance the
setlist. Easy at Whitby goth fest though.... Just nix all the thrash and replace
with dark matter.
Q: In 1977 you
started the Anarchy tour with the Pistols, but only lasted for one show, what
happened? Did the publicity surrounding the Sex Pistols, with things like their
infamous Grundy interview, help or hinder your own career?
A: After the
Pistols said a rude word on TV they got so much press Malcolm didn't need the
Damned to help sell tickets, which was the only reason we were there after all.
Loved the guys in the band, funny bunch, especially Sid - didn't care for their
manager too much though. And he had a habit of rewriting history with him as the
puppet master. It simply was not like that, the Pistols were more than capable
of thinking for themselves.
We were busy doing
our own thing anyway.... Going on our strange but wonderful musical
journey.
Q: Punk had
strong support in London, how did you find audiences outside the capital? What
were the locals like?
A: Considering
there was a lot of country rock about and Little Jimmy Osmond was top of the
charts I guess our manic energy must've been a bit of a shock to some audiences,
and it's true that we did see some gig attendances dwindle to almost nothingness
during the odd performance in smaller towns (High Wycombe!). We soon had a clan
who would follow us anywhere though and I remember them all bundling into the
venue through our dressing room window on many an occasion.
Some dossed on our
hotel room floors, others in the bands van..... there was a funny incident one
night when some potential guitar thieves attempted to rob the vehicle and got
rather more than they bargained for.....
Q: You were the
first UK punk band to hit America, what were those gigs like?
A: Rough and ready,
sleeping on other bands floors after getting thrown off the Television gig and
hastily arranging a gig so we could try and earn the airfare home. Crossing Rod
Stewart off the guest list (he could afford to pay). Getting thrown out of the
Whisky A Go Go in LA for drinking too much whisky. I ask you.....
Q: For your
second album, “Music For Pleasure”, you originally wanted ex-Floyd Syd Barrett
to produce the album. Did you manage to have any contact with him? In the
end you used Nick Mason, what was that experience like?
A: For a punk band
to have anything to do with Pink Floyd, who at the time were doing huge stadium
gigs must've seemed like insanity but their genius ex leader Syd Barrett was the
one we wanted to produce a punk / psych hybrid 2nd album. He never showed of
course so that project was shelved until 'Etiquette' which really has some epic
moments that Syd would've liked I'm sure. The improv sections in Antipope and
Looking' At You spring to mind.
Nick Mason was a
nice enough bloke but it wasn't a meeting of minds and to be honest, I wouldn't
mind the MFP getting a remix by someone who understands garage music a little
better.
Q: “Music For
Pleasure” didn’t do so well and you called it a day, only to reform. What made
you decide to have another go?
A: DV, Rat and
myself had not been receiving the songwriting royalties that Brian as main
writer had and thus we were broke. So we arranged a couple of gigs for some much
needed dosh. I changed back from bass to guitar, which was my instrument in
previous band Johnny Moped and our mate Lemmy completed the lineup on bass.
Apparently (according to Lem) we messed up the one Motörhead song we attempted.
Oops.
Q: When you got
back together, James - who was the main songwriter on the first couple of albums
- had gone. Did you have a plan or were you bricking it?
A: Without Brian's
songs I think the rest of us were expected to disappear fairly sharpish but in
one of those unexpectedly lucky things that happens around this band
occasionally we found that we all had a knack for songwriting and from then on
the problem was which ideas to leave out rather than where's the material coming
from. After our less than rewarding experience with Stiff we were loathe to sign
with another small indie label but Chiswick said you don't have to do an album
unless they got Love Song in the charts, which somehow they did. So we gave it
another go and we're still going.....
Q: On his show,
Marc Bolan championed punk and in ’77 you supported him on tour, what was that
like? Was it a good mix?
A: Perfect - he
liked punk (unlike some other rock stars), we liked him..... He souped up his
set so our crowd dug what he was doing and the Damned's theatrical tinge
appealed to his audience too.
Bolan was a nice
bloke and his band of session guys were a laugh too..... and Herbie Flowers
showed me how he played the bass on Walk On The Wild Side.
Both bands had a
big final 10 minute jam in Portsmouth on Get It On. It was chaos if I recall
correctly.
Q: Looking at
pictures from the 70’s with the Captain’s beret and bright clothes and Vanian’s
chalk white face you seemed to keep away from the stereo-typical punk image, was
this a conscious decision?
A: Yes, I would
generally wear white or coloured clothes to contrast with the others..... and in
particular DV and Brian James.
But you're wrong,
there was NO stereotypical punk look until the 2nd wave of punk bands like
Exploited, etc.
The class of 77 (76
actually) looked nothing like each other. Clash, Stranglers, Pistols, Buzzers,
Damned..... All had their own looks and none are stereotypical punk.
Q: As mentioned,
the Black Album represented the birth of Goth. What was the idea behind the
change in style?
A: We were all
writing and when we brought our demos to the table Mr Vanian's had taken a
sudden lurch to somewhere altogether darker. His imagination was working
overtime and it became a real pleasure to help arrange the pieces when we
started the sessions at Rockfield studios in Wales. A total creative workout for
all involved, and we had some fun with the locals too when we took the odd break
and popped down the pub. Some of them thought Dracula was in town.....
especially when Dave borrowed the horse and went galloping around the place with
his cape flowing behind him.
Q: You’ve all
dipped your toes into different musical ventures – your solo career and Punk
Floyd, Vanian with Phantom Chords, Monty’s experimental jazz – what makes you
come back to the Damned?
A: The audience,
who have supported this band through thick and thin. The records are nice and
everything but it's all about doing it live and that's thankfully something we
are not bad at. The fans can be quite entertaining themselves too, and that's
nice for us. Keeps it fresh.
Q: Knowing what
you know now, what advice would you give to a young David and
Raymond?
A: I got the best
advice in the world in 1980 when an ear specialist told me to get rid of the
huge amplifier I was using and cut the stage volume dramatically. It saved my
hearing.
Advice I wish I HAD
been given? Don't buy a motorbike (I had a bad smash), don't expect to get
stinking rich... just enjoy the experience. It's a privilege to twang a guitar
for a living anyway.
Q: Why do you
think there is still such an interest in bands from the UK Punk
era?
A: Because you
cannot beat thrashing drums, cranked up guitar and an impassioned vocalist
giving it their all as though their lives depended on it. Some cracking songs
came out of the UK punk era too..... I always play Into The Valley when DJing.
What a song.
There were some
wonderful characters as well.... Jimmy Pursey, Charlie Harper, Lydon, Moped,
etc. These people have boundless energy too, you'd still get worn out after a
few hours with either of them.
Q: Do you have
any contact with James and Scabies? Do you think you could ever play with them
again?
A: I cant remember
what the disagreements we had in the past were about anyway, so why not? They're
both great players but if there WAS some reunion then the setlist would be
severely limited to the first couple of albums.
However the current
lineup is also exceptional, and never fails to deliver. Pinch, Monty and Stu are
genuinely Damned in character and musicianship and have contributed Grave
Disorder and So, Who's Paranoid to the discography. These albums
contain our heady mix of alternatively dark and melodic tunes and if not on
ITunes can be got hold of from officialdamned.com or
captainsensible.com.
Q: Has anyone
claimed that you’ve been an influence that’s surprised you / you’ve been
embarrassed about?
A: I suppose you're
talking about people from famous bands who dug us - Noel Gallagher, etc and a
bunch of big US punk outfits. I tend to like the fact that Damon Hill and Jo
Brand have attended gigs. They're very welcome to come again sometime too. Oh, I
think Morrissey likes us as well.. good luck to him!
Q: What have
been your career highlights?
A: Just being on
TOTPs was good enough for me..... And Meeting Fluff Freeman and Jimmy Savile.
Wonderful eccentrics. Not arf..... guys and gals.
Seriously though,
many people tell me how much joy the band has brought into their lives over the
years so it's real nice to know that it was all worthwhile after all that we've
been through.
Q: What does the
future hold?
A: No idea.... The
Damned is a rudderless pirate ship plundering various territories seemingly at
random. And that's the way we like it. You never know what's round the next
corner. Maybe a nice chap offering a multi million pound record contract - or
possibly a maniac with a chainsaw. That's life in the Damned, I've kinda got
used to it. Laughs.
Catch the legendary punk
trailblazers at these dates –
November:
9th - Bristol, O2
Academy
10th -
Birmingham, O2 Academy
11th - Cambridge, Corn
Exchange
12th - London,
Roundhouse
13th - Brighton, East
Wing
14th - Norwich,
UEA
15th - Nottingham, Rock
City
17th - Newcastle, O2
Academy
18th - Leeds, O2
Academy
19th - Manchester,
Academy
20th - Edinburgh, HMV
Picture House
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